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Desertbums Champion Author Tucson Posts:3,334 Points:316,780 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Oct 17, 2009 3:43:33 PM Ignore Desertbums Report Abuse I've used AMSOIL motor oil for about six years in my 2003 Elantra. Not sure if my gas millage is any better because I switched over when I got the car new. I get an average of 26.6 MPG. I have been thinking about using other products from AMSOIL, like the air cleaner, oil filter, and grease for the joints. AMSOIL has been around for a long time. Any thoughts?

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I've used AMSOIL motor oil for about six years in my 2003 Elantra. Not sure if my gas millage is any better because I switched over when I got the car new. I get an average of 26.6 MPG. I have been thinking about using other products from AMSOIL, like the air cleaner, oil filter, and grease for the joints. AMSOIL has been around for a long time. Any thoughts?

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FarmTech Champion Author Virginia Posts:12,291 Points:2,319,685 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 9:09:29 AM Ignore FarmTech Report Abuse IMHO, Amsoil is TREMENDOUSLY OVERRATED. It is over-priced for what it delivers. Here are two that are even better in many race professionals' and Certified Master Mechanics' opinion: 1) RedLine Synthetic Oils 2) Torco Synthetic Oils FYI to Everybody: Only use FULL Synthetics AND NOT all Full Synthetics are even remotely the same. AMSOIL has some great products, made with good technology, but the technology has now been around for quite some time. You can find the same, or better, quality for a much lower price. Unless it is a specialized, high-performance engine (and perhaps even then), I use either Valvoline or Pennzoil FULL Synthetics. Use them ALONG WITH the RIGHT oil filter and you will gain not only maximum performance from your engine, but more importantly, maximum mileage and life. THE REAL TRICK with Full Synthetic oils is that you need to start using them early in engine life. You can either start with Full Synthetics or break the engine in to about 15,000 miles, then switch. If you try and start using Full Synthetics after the engine has substantial mileage, it will usually find all kinds of leaks. What happens is the seals of the engine "harden" or become fully formed in place between 25 and 50K miles. When you introduce a Full Synthetic oil, it penetrates so well, that it will go through the minute areas between the seals and rotating engine parts. Then you have to break down the engine and replace the seals, which is not cheap. Many manufacturers now are going with Full Synthetics right from the start. The Right Oil Filter is only those that get 98% or better of all particles on the first pass. The filter must also use synthetic media, NOT paper media. There are some good studies done by independents, but they are dated. One of the most thorough of those was done in 2000 by Russ W. Knize, who did some updates in 2008. My top choice is the Purolator Pure One, and it does NOT have the flow restrictions that Mr. Knize was concerned with in his study. Once the oil has saturated all of the media, the flow rate is very good. With Full Synthetic oil, you can ACTUALLY SAVE MONEY. The trick is to buy your Full Synthetic oil on sale or at a deal -- see next paragraph. How you save money has to do with when you change your oil. I can go to 10 or 12,000 miles before I need to change the Full Synthetic oil. If it is an older engine that gets hard use, I may change the filter out at 5 or 6,000 miles. Most of the time, the filter change is not necessary. If you calculate what it would cost to do a Conventional Oil and Filter change every 3,000 miles and add it all up, you can see the savings. I am averaging over $25 by this method. How you can really save money is look for deals when Full Synthetic oils are on sale. You can also save even more by buying them in the 5-qt. jugs at discounters like Wal-Mart. I buy the individual quart cases on sale and the 5-qt. jugs at Wal-Mart, as many of my engines use 6 or 7 qts. at each change. I start with the 5-qt. jug and finish with individual quarts. If all you need is 5 quarts per change, then the jugs are all you need. GB Member delgadobb's post has some great tips. I have found a number of independents that will do a change for around $10 labor and the Disposal Fees, making an average of $15 with my oil and filter. I mostly do my own changes because I have a garage, floor jacks, stands and lifts. I simply carry the used oil to Advance Auto Part or other places that accept used oil at no charge.
retcap201 Champion Author Austin Posts:5,887 Points:1,335,110 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 7:34:30 AM Ignore retcap201 Report Abuse yes
delgadobb Rookie Author Nevada Posts:14 Points:2,270 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 7:01:31 AM Ignore delgadobb Report Abuse Yes, full synthetic all the way for both vehicles. We converted each after the initial break-in period. I would've been happy to pay someone the labor to use my oil & filter (Purolator PureOne), but they all still want the full $70-90 because "it's a synthetic oil change". Huh? The labor's no different. So, I do the changes myself, it's pretty easy with the right tools & gives me a chance to check the underside of the car (once found plastic debris from road wrapping around exhaust & starting to fuse to it). By carefully planning purchases with promotions and/or rebates, I've got to the point that the oil changes cost me about $15-20. Considering that I'm picking a quality filter & getting 6,000-8,000 miles between changes (often with one filter change along the way), it's a no-brainer for me. I could probably go to 10K miles or more but why bother if it's not costing a lot & the oil is getting dirty? We have pretty boring cars (Toyota Prius & Kia Optima) so it's not like it's a performance thing - although both cars have done wonderfully with synthetic oil. Both cars run trouble-free & my mechanic buddy is amazed how good each engine looks after lots of cross-country travel (about 120K between the 2 cars). Synthetic has likely helped our mileage as well, as we both exceed listed ratings & mileage improved on the conversion from regular oil - tho it's hard to say 100%.
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krazkar Veteran Author Calgary Posts:462 Points:303,130 Joined:May 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2013 6:53:36 AM Ignore krazkar Report Abuse I have used synthetics for many years. Mostly Castrol.
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forestghost07 All-Star Author Miami Posts:604 Points:7,565 Joined:Apr 2013	Message Posted: May 2, 2013 4:40:07 PM Ignore forestghost07 Report Abuse im anxious to try Amsoil but cant find it locally, really dont want to order heavy (read $$ ship) cases of oil on line. Anyone know where it's avail. in south Fla? I run syn. oil in my SUV but not my '72 sports car which specifies 20W-50. Amsoil HAS a syn. 20W-50
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Vin63 Champion Author San Bernardino Posts:1,890 Points:465,295 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 9:12:54 AM Ignore Vin63 Report Abuse Yes, in my daily drivers.
borsht All-Star Author Oakland Posts:926 Points:217,445 Joined:Aug 2012	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 2:47:11 AM Ignore borsht Report Abuse Amsoil is the best synthetic. But it costs considerably more too.
rkain Champion Author Fort Worth Posts:8,451 Points:1,738,215 Joined:Oct 2007	Message Posted: Feb 1, 2013 12:48:02 AM Ignore rkain Report Abuse no
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Carusle Champion Author Atlanta Posts:11,509 Points:2,276,975 Joined:Nov 2006	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 8:56:24 PM Ignore Carusle Report Abuse Is a must in our TDI.
herbiepopnecker Champion Author British Columbia Posts:13,742 Points:2,534,030 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 8:13:23 PM Ignore herbiepopnecker Report Abuse On my newer car and my old 3 cylinder machine
jimmy544 Champion Author Boston Posts:4,376 Points:681,515 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 8:07:29 PM Ignore jimmy544 Report Abuse Synthetic oil cokes at a higher temp than does conventional oil and does not contribute so much to sludge and carbon build up in engines. First I ever heard of an oil disappearing in heat. All oils become less viscous with increasing temperature. That just means it flows better.Mostly use Mobile 1 and Royal Purple when I can find it.
fuelfixer Rookie Author KW Posts:21 Points:329,720 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: Jan 31, 2013 7:20:10 PM Ignore fuelfixer Report Abuse I run with 17% synthetic Shellbourne Fuels. Unlike 100% synthetic oil, it does not disappear from the cylinder walls in high heat. Similarly, when starting up from cold (below freezing), there is oil on the cylinder walls thus preventing metal-on-metal contact. Seems to add a point or 2 in mpg as engine runs with less strain.
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reamedatthepump Sophomore Author Toronto Posts:190 Points:214,650 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: Jan 26, 2013 4:59:32 PM Ignore reamedatthepump Report Abuse Amsoil products are very good. The only product I didn't like was their air filter. I put one in an 88 Mustang and it collapsed due to the edges not being rigid enough. That same Mustang was driven at one point with no oil pressure for 35 km ( about 22 miles ) with no damage to the engine.
sagnat Champion Author Riverside Posts:1,291 Points:335,900 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 12:08:33 PM Ignore sagnat Report Abuse I run synthetic and semi-synthetic oils in all my cars & trucks.
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Millers37 Champion Author Michigan Posts:37,445 Points:687,525 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Jan 20, 2013 6:20:39 AM Ignore Millers37 Report Abuse Yes I use Amsoil in my Duramax Diesel, does a great job.
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rual817 Sophomore Author Dallas Posts:113 Points:167,880 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Jan 18, 2013 1:21:35 PM Ignore rual817 Report Abuse Castrol Edge is a great oil, So is Rotella T6, and Amsoil, and Mobil 1 Euro. All these Full Synthetics qualify as Great Oils. I own a VW very few oils pass VW standards. These oils do, along with a few others, but not many. The Germans have such a high standard for lubricity and longevity that few compare. These are just a few of the handful that qualify. Writer from Mens Health Magazine owned a 01 VW Jetta and gave it back to VW to see what the inside of a 1/2 million mile engine looked like. Long story short. After beaking it down to its bare individual wearable parts, an engineer guaged everything and they were ALL still within specifications. Even the cylinder walls still had the original cross hatching from the original honing. Meaning it hadn't even full broken in yet. http://blogs.menshealth.com/half-mill-man/the-automotive-autopsy/2012/04/19
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