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Methane Hydrate Production could Replace Fracking as Next Major Concern

Oilprice.com -- The U.S. Department this week said it worked with ConocoPhillips and the Japan, Oil, Gas and Metals National Corp. on the extraction of natural gas from methane hydrate ice structures from the North Slope of Alaska. Scientists were able to coax natural gas out of the crystals by injecting carbon dioxide and nitrogen into ice formations. The U.S. energy secretary said the field test was just the beginning, but given the history of methane hydrates, it could replace fracking as the next major concern in the natural gas industry.

U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said the team of scientists worked on the small-scale project to coax gas out of the ice structures like those found under the permafrost of the North Slope. Chu said that while this technology was in the very early stages of develop

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,577 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 13, 2012 7:27:04 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse not gonna be the next big source.
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,577 Points:1,605,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 11:04:54 PM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse CH3-Hydride is not that easy to get to. We'll see how it works out in the longer run.
goldrose1 Champion Author Cleveland Posts:10,925 Points:1,920,910 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 9:20:28 PM Ignore goldrose1 Report Abuse Yeah, sparky808
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:2,976 Points:593,835 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 12:31:11 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
velomac Rookie Author Greensboro Posts:45 Points:1,308,005 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:08:50 AM Ignore velomac Report Abuse > @ knot2swift : " This makes no idiot sense. If they wanna inject toxic, lethal and poisonous CO2 (otherwise know as plant food)into the ground and out of our atmosphere, what's wrong with that other than starving plants? If the wanna inject Nitrogen, (71% of our air that no enviro freak has put down so far) than what's wrong with that other than plants need it? Nitrogen is a fertilizer for them. So stupid. Seems like it doesn't matter what you try to do, idiots will try and stop you. One final note: I we just used 100% water for fracking, Idoits would declare it toxic. " What a stupid, idiotic, nonsensical comment. 'knot2swift', your name says it. You're not only not too swift, you're backwardly slow.
ROSYMI Champion Author Michigan Posts:1,028 Points:365,500 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 10:19:14 AM Ignore ROSYMI Report Abuse no matter what they do gas will never go down like we all want it to
tomok Champion Author Portland Posts:32,907 Points:2,341,510 Joined:Aug 2006	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 2:10:31 AM Ignore tomok Report Abuse Methane Hydrate is a possible fuel. Produce and capture Methane from land fills and waste dumps is better and much less expensive. Fracking has its problems, protect the surface and ground waters, people and animals at all times from fracking! No fracking waste water injected deep into the earth either! Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible! The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
LetemEatCake Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:5,594 Points:1,200,965 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 12:29:47 AM Ignore LetemEatCake Report Abuse Excellent comments Aviator Rob from 11:43:25 PM! Agree.
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,108,585 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 12:03:54 AM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse Aviator_Rob; How exactly do you want the govt to lower gas prices, us4usa? We're already drilling everywhere we can domestically. Unless I'm mistaken, there's actually a shortage of drilling equipment because it's all being used. If you want gas prices to come down, tell Big Oil to stop exporting domestically produced crude oil and oil products out of this country. 1. Stop printing money like hot cakes 2. Control oil traders 3. Drill on Fed land 4. Stop saying WE need $5/$9 gas 5. More tax on all oil/gas exports 6. Sure some really smart guy could name a few more... What has DC/WH done to lower gas prices???
danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,332 Points:1,536,730 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:52:45 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse Move to India, the methane free zone; no oil or gas drilling and only all organic cows !
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:50:44 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse We're in a real Catch 22 here, danol43. With the economy being so shaky, the minute the Fed starts to raise interest rates, you'll see the country's GDP go right into the toilet. And as for the idea of cutting government spending, where should we start? I guarantee somebody will oppose any program you say needs to go, whether it's Medicaid or military spending. I'm afraid there are no easy answers here. If it was easy, even our brain-dead Congress could have come up with some solution.
Focus2 Champion Author Illinois Posts:7,885 Points:1,917,300 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:48:46 PM Ignore Focus2 Report Abuse Yet, it may take years for us to get rid of Ethanol!
nomad228 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,117 Points:575,140 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:46:12 PM Ignore nomad228 Report Abuse only worth it to alaska or if they could pipe it across the united states.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:45:06 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse As much as I wanna help you, 10k, the days of 99 cent gas are officially over. Heck, $1.99 gas is over, too.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,114 Points:1,352,710 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:43:29 PM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse It sure seems they could capture all that natural Methane in the fields where they just burn it off continually. They say it's more expensive to collect & ship than it's worth. But what a waste & it's polluting at the same time.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:43:25 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse I'd like to know how much of this methane hydrate can be recovered using the process mentioned and how much of the methane escapes into the atmosphere, where it's a much bigger greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. Methane emissions are a really big concern since they act like steroids for climate change. The real problem is that as the planet gets warmer, especially at the poles, these methane hydrates locked in the permafrost start to be freed from the ice and evaporate into the atmosphere. People in the arctic have already done the Gasland kitchen faucet trick but instead of holding a match to the faucet, they're just holding a match to the ground and causing the ground to burst into flame. Methane is just seeping up out of the permafrost. Fairbanks, we have a problem.
jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,069 Points:1,099,105 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:42:25 PM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse This sounds like Big Oil trying to protect their business.
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,217 Points:2,250,020 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:40:10 PM Ignore 10k Report Abuse i just wanna see gas at least down to 99¢/gallon..
megadiesellv Champion Author Atlanta Posts:1,474 Points:503,585 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:39:38 PM Ignore megadiesellv Report Abuse Well.
2bigtanks All-Star Author Akron Posts:772 Points:371,610 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:39:08 PM Ignore 2bigtanks Report Abuse Okay
danol43 Champion Author Modesto Posts:1,697 Points:585,180 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:37:58 PM Ignore danol43 Report Abuse If you want gas prices to go down, tell Congress to quit spending so much money that the Fed has to print more just to stay alive. The result is a declining value of the dollar which means it takes more of them to buy oil from the Saudis.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:35:45 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse How exactly do you want the govt to lower gas prices, us4usa? We're already drilling everywhere we can domestically. Unless I'm mistaken, there's actually a shortage of drilling equipment because it's all being used. If you want gas prices to come down, tell Big Oil to stop exporting domestically produced crude oil and oil products out of this country.
KrsnaDragon Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,387 Points:527,400 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:35:18 PM Ignore KrsnaDragon Report Abuse Interesting. If I recall correctly, this is not new, but rather it is being revisited as a practical energy resource.
n3tbc Veteran Author Wilmington Posts:355 Points:332,825 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:35:08 PM Ignore n3tbc Report Abuse Why don't they just cut to the chase... It seems that this industry is not happy unless they are polluting, poisoning or gouging us.
Eugenian Champion Author Oregon Posts:1,837 Points:357,155 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:35:03 PM Ignore Eugenian Report Abuse Those who do not learn from the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.
tedjm1 Champion Author New York Posts:5,609 Points:800,300 Joined:Dec 2006	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:32:42 PM Ignore tedjm1 Report Abuse And no one cares how dangerous this may be for our environment. We need to go back to living like the early indians of this land. (1650)
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,800 Points:1,426,750 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:32:23 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse "Not only did some of the witnesses to the Deepwater Horizon believe methane hydrates led to the explosion, however, its quick production may have interfered with efforts to control the leak. For those concerned about the negative consequences of oil and natural gas production, the few small earthquakes and trace amounts of harmful chemicals in drinking water associated with fracking are nothing when compared with the potential consequences of misapplied methane hydrate production." --The problem with fossil fuels is not the possibility of running out. It's the problem of daring to recover them...
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:32:21 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse preacherboyFL, I think you're on the wrong message board, unless Jesus has an opinion on fracking.
Aviator_Rob Champion Author New York Posts:3,776 Points:409,565 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:31:09 PM Ignore Aviator_Rob Report Abuse So tell me, HYEgasCA, how's your well water? Should we forward your address to the gas well drillers? I mean, if you don't mind having them as your neighbor, of course.
preacherboyFL Veteran Author Orlando Posts:444 Points:124,960 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:29:11 PM Ignore preacherboyFL Report Abuse Jesus said, "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life.
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viperND Champion Author South Bend Posts:3,285 Points:730,965 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:28:18 PM Ignore viperND Report Abuse that stinks
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Vette1967 Champion Author Albany Posts:5,947 Points:1,272,000 Joined:Jun 2009	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:27:11 PM Ignore Vette1967 Report Abuse Interesting.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,969 Points:1,235,785 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:25:01 PM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse Key words, could replace?
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hotrod_brother Champion Author Tampa Posts:12,606 Points:2,232,195 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:19:35 PM Ignore hotrod_brother Report Abuse I'll take any leftover Nitro Methane.
joel27nc Champion Author Raleigh Posts:10,512 Points:1,853,395 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:18:53 PM Ignore joel27nc Report Abuse Don't give up on natural gas.
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Bubba44612 Champion Author Ohio Posts:7,371 Points:1,872,105 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:17:52 PM Ignore Bubba44612 Report Abuse Just watch the north slope explode sometime in the future.
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FlyNFool Champion Author South Carolina Posts:8,219 Points:1,680,225 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:15:48 PM Ignore FlyNFool Report Abuse Frick frack!
HYEgasCA Champion Author Fresno Posts:2,111 Points:906,525 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:13:34 PM Ignore HYEgasCA Report Abuse regout "No fracking at any price." Coming from a man who rides a bike. Frack it Now!!
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us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,976 Points:1,108,585 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 8, 2012 11:13:06 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse "U.S. Energy Secretary Steven Chu said"... A lot of things about higher gas prices, which is killing the poor/middle class...