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CA Energy Schemes: ‘We are getting fleeced’

Cal Watchdog -- The California Air Resources Board has created a stealthy new corporation in Delaware. The Western Climate Initiative Inc., which will manage cap-and-trade programs, even has its own form of currency.
“CARB is creating a whole new currency with these pollution certificates,” explained Assemblywoman Diane Harkey, R-Dana Point. “Initially the state was to unite with other Western states to reduce the purported menace to the future of our planet,” Harkey said.

Harkey has been trying to get her legislative colleagues to understand that the “fix,” setting a goal to reduce greenhouse gas emissions to 1990 levels, with increasing population on the horizon, “is guaranteed to cost employers and everyday people more for the electricity and products they need. California’s only remaining partner is

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DarthDadJr Champion Author Virginia Posts:7,432 Points:1,546,645 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 10:56:25 PM Ignore DarthDadJr Report Abuse ...not sure what or who is getting fleeced.
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bluebird1 Champion Author Toronto Posts:15,874 Points:3,134,850 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: Apr 7, 2012 9:40:58 PM Ignore bluebird1 Report Abuse Cap & trade has never been shown to work in reality...so yes being fleeced!!!
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