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Study: 1 in 10 US Vehicles To Be Diesels by 2015

Hybrid Cars -- Basing its bullishness for diesel proliferation on a study done by Carnegie Mellon University, German company Bosch says to get ready for 10 percent of all American vehicles to be diesel powered within the next three years...

It’s long been recognized that diesel cars can be up to 30-percent more fuel efficient than their gasoline counterparts and can in cases deliver a driving range almost double – or as much as 700 miles versus a typical 350-400 mile radius for gasoline cars.

And more are on their way, including the Chevrolet Cruze diesel, based on GM's successful compact that sold 232,000 units last year, Jeep is offering...

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Submitted May 01, 2012 By: ned23

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carpenter4u Champion Author Virginia Posts:2,436 Points:616,395 Joined:Jul 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:44:34 PM Ignore carpenter4u Report Abuse but itis expensive to fix them.
slowpoke63 Champion Author Louisiana Posts:2,737 Points:886,390 Joined:Jul 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:44:22 PM Ignore slowpoke63 Report Abuse As I have posted before, Diesel technology is much better than it used to be. Still waiting for a mid size pickup with a turbocharged, intercooled engine (four or six cylinder), coupled to a 5 or 6 speed gearbox. Mileage, power, and durability.
adr47 Champion Author Saskatchewan Posts:5,667 Points:1,178,750 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:43:00 PM Ignore adr47 Report Abuse Doubt it
KWM2011 Champion Author Ontario Posts:1,451 Points:351,950 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:40:54 PM Ignore KWM2011 Report Abuse No thanks.
chicoCA Champion Author California Posts:1,980 Points:1,773,780 Joined:Nov 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:40:03 PM Ignore chicoCA Report Abuse okay
themaninthehat Champion Author New Orleans Posts:1,824 Points:472,265 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:39:04 PM Ignore themaninthehat Report Abuse cough cough
truck193 All-Star Author Michigan Posts:637 Points:454,620 Joined:May 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:39:00 PM Ignore truck193 Report Abuse if they keep the price up 20 to 30 cents more then gas, I don't think people will break the doors down to get them
blah2blah3 Champion Author Houston Posts:2,601 Points:599,895 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:38:38 PM Ignore blah2blah3 Report Abuse ok
kenji554 Champion Author Charlotte Posts:1,217 Points:512,270 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:19:14 PM Ignore kenji554 Report Abuse 10% in 3 years. Do not believe that is realistic. 10 years, maybe.
TomT2Lee Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:5,357 Points:1,597,230 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:32:36 PM Ignore TomT2Lee Report Abuse I am completely pro diesel, but this number seems unobtainable.
Mark8601 All-Star Author Bakersfield Posts:913 Points:379,365 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 7:23:47 PM Ignore Mark8601 Report Abuse Diesels converted to run on LNG also would be lots better.
PathfinderSC Champion Author South Carolina Posts:9,516 Points:1,830,640 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 6:30:24 PM Ignore PathfinderSC Report Abuse Clean Diesel is the way to go, If they could bring Diesel back in line.
BuckyTJones Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:4,932 Points:967,950 Joined:Mar 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:58:44 PM Ignore BuckyTJones Report Abuse I wonder how many will be CNG by then?
deputydog082 Champion Author Detroit Posts:1,781 Points:659,365 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 5:12:48 PM Ignore deputydog082 Report Abuse not sold on diesels
SilverDodge2000 Champion Author Spokane Posts:1,036 Points:185,390 Joined:Feb 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 4:15:36 PM Ignore SilverDodge2000 Report Abuse Diesel is CLEANER than gasoline and has been for a dozen years. It produces more energy, you get better mpg. It's a win win situation.
TruthMatters Champion Author New Jersey Posts:2,520 Points:533,985 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:50:34 PM Ignore TruthMatters Report Abuse Isn't it already (counting all buses, trucks, & other commercial vehicles)?
molebaby96 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:2,121 Points:505,165 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 3:36:10 PM Ignore molebaby96 Report Abuse Good news.
MusicalMan7 All-Star Author Ohio Posts:597 Points:93,330 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:20:31 PM Ignore MusicalMan7 Report Abuse I'm not sure this is a good thing, and I surely don't want a diesel vehicle, especially a car. A big pickup truck, maybe, but not a car.
BigTruc All-Star Author Memphis Posts:957 Points:780,540 Joined:Jul 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:12:53 PM Ignore BigTruc Report Abuse That will be great.
Dr Gas Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,265 Points:358,080 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:09:09 PM Ignore Dr Gas Report Abuse They forget, as the car makers have ALWAYS said - the US car buyers do not WANT diesels! So how can 10% of cars sold be diesels if they don't want to offer them to us?
zephy Veteran Author Tampa Posts:344 Points:245,960 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 2:05:46 PM Ignore zephy Report Abuse more stink in the air
schatzila Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:4,944 Points:1,015,645 Joined:Jun 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:55:11 PM Ignore schatzila Report Abuse Doubt it.
dsaine Champion Author North Carolina Posts:2,997 Points:632,495 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:26:20 PM Ignore dsaine Report Abuse Not good.
rver524 Veteran Author Colorado Posts:298 Points:14,320 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 1:14:16 PM Ignore rver524 Report Abuse I still believe it is more important to build vehicles that do not rely entirely on fuel.
doctorindyj Champion Author Santa Fe Posts:3,448 Points:839,585 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:48:31 PM Ignore doctorindyj Report Abuse It would probably be more if diesel wasn't so overpriced at the moment.
johnd900 Veteran Author Massachusetts Posts:475 Points:192,305 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:41:50 PM Ignore johnd900 Report Abuse Where's the Ford Fusion or Focus diesel? I think that would be a seller.
RochBear Champion Author Minnesota Posts:10,462 Points:1,740,965 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:31:39 PM Ignore RochBear Report Abuse If a US company would make a diesel car, I would buy one. I have a diesel pickup (with Cummins) - LOVE IT. 27 MPG around town!!!! Most small gas burning cars can't begin to compete with that. Now add to that, the pickup weighs 7200 pounds (3/4 ton dodge). So a smaller car, with a diesel should do great.
MN1 Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:3,359 Points:650,590 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:31:04 PM Ignore MN1 Report Abuse Should be a higher percentage until EV's are more affordable.
GetMaxCashBack Veteran Author Trenton Posts:386 Points:163,425 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:03:42 PM Ignore GetMaxCashBack Report Abuse I'm still rooting for electric, although diesel could be a good step in between.
carranco Champion Author Georgia Posts:1,027 Points:269,015 Joined:Dec 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 12:02:52 PM Ignore carranco Report Abuse Not the way to go. Natural gas stations are being installed now and is where the focus needs to be.
TripleHs Champion Author Austin Posts:3,355 Points:916,590 Joined:Oct 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:44:32 AM Ignore TripleHs Report Abuse really?
DesertRat2011 Champion Author Riverside Posts:3,612 Points:484,830 Joined:Jun 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:40:26 AM Ignore DesertRat2011 Report Abuse I love my TDI Jetta 46 mpg. Sure which Ford would come out with one in their Focus. I would give a diesel Mazda a look as I've owned Mazdas in the past.
Homito All-Star Author San Antonio Posts:880 Points:174,700 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:23:49 AM Ignore Homito Report Abuse that shoul ¿d be even better.
Homito All-Star Author San Antonio Posts:880 Points:174,700 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:23:20 AM Ignore Homito Report Abuse would not be nice to see a diesel-hybrid car?
bills299 Champion Author Atlanta Posts:3,366 Points:904,490 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:19:22 AM Ignore bills299 Report Abuse Wow!
spotterjoe Rookie Author Nevada Posts:83 Points:17,720 Joined:Apr 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:17:25 AM Ignore spotterjoe Report Abuse about time. now change the refinery mix so that diesel is less expensive
MINIWINI598 Champion Author Washington Posts:3,012 Points:517,725 Joined:Dec 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 10:01:25 AM Ignore MINIWINI598 Report Abuse ok
doeslayersr Champion Author Illinois Posts:9,115 Points:871,235 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:49:48 AM Ignore doeslayersr Report Abuse Ok by me. Diesel engines should last longer if you do the proper maintenance.
knutzAL Champion Author Alabama Posts:2,248 Points:372,680 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:46:43 AM Ignore knutzAL Report Abuse So! Thats why diesel has kept its higher price than regular!
vrossi46 Champion Author San Jose Posts:2,672 Points:804,920 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:44:30 AM Ignore vrossi46 Report Abuse diesel is a great alternative
sjf238 Champion Author Philadelphia Posts:1,215 Points:647,955 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:41:08 AM Ignore sjf238 Report Abuse Interesting.
humblepie Champion Author Toledo Posts:34,197 Points:2,371,370 Joined:Mar 2006	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:39:52 AM Ignore humblepie Report Abuse smart americans would make this more lik 50-50
uglytom Champion Author Florida Posts:7,464 Points:1,542,015 Joined:Jul 2007	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:34:59 AM Ignore uglytom Report Abuse I doubt it!
orphancarguyPE Champion Author PEI Posts:3,843 Points:734,015 Joined:Jan 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:33:03 AM Ignore orphancarguyPE Report Abuse About diesel fuel...its time Americans woke up to the fact that their gasoline has been heavily taxpayer subsidized for decades (the Ethanol alcohol bribe), and their diesel has been punitively taxed. It has made for a situation where there is a doubly wide gulf in prices, and a lack of new clean diesels in the marketplace. As a start, US refineries haven't switched/upgraded to getting a different mix of end product, the way European refineries did over a decade ago. They generally now have a half and half mix of diesel to gasoline now, instead of the common US closer to 3 to 1 gasoline to diesel. Its becoming obvious--gasoline is now seriously in oversupply and the excess has to be exported, and diesel is in continuing undersupply. Time to change the mix. The prices can't go down to where people want them to go, unless the input crude costs go down, and if there is a razor thin difference worldwide between supply at 101-102%, and demand at 100% and continuously rising, that's unlikely to happen except for short term fluctuations, is it? Especially since new oil--expensive, dirty, difficult, low ERoEI oil from tar sands, shale rock, arctic and deep ocean all has a very high floor price to produce (getting close to $70-$100 barrel) or everyone stays home. Diesels can give you the mileage of a gasoline-electric hybrid, but with a high amount of useful torque (towing, passing) at low RPMs that make that makes "horsepower" measurement a lot less relevant. Horsepower impresses friends, torque does actual work. Now, if someone would bring out a DIESEL-electric hybrid for retail sale, the 100 mpg barrier would be a doddle. There are certainly enough 2 (or 4) seater concept cars from the major manufacturers out there, like the VW XL1 which is a further real world refinement of previous 'what-if?' prototypes. http://budbrownvw.wordpress.com/2011/02/11/vws-diesel-electric-hybrid-coming-to-north-america-in-2013/ The XL-1 is a cross between the idea of the first generation 2 seater Honda Insight hybrid, and say--the Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid, where the fuel engine charges the generator for the electric motors instead of moving the car directly. 22 miles directly on battery, and well over 200 mpg. Doing diesel best--tiny 2 cylinder eyedropping fuel under steady max load to run a big generator. That "30 percent" MPG benefit for diesel--often more--carries over to hybrids and plug-in hybrids too. My 'definitely not a concept car' VW Jetta wagon is a dog-filled, mud coated, trailer towing well-used real life slogger, and it gets over 50 US mpg. However, I'd like to see a roof rack luggage carrier and trailer hitch on an XL-1 before I'd buy one LOL!
OTISFL Champion Author Pensacola Posts:4,605 Points:864,840 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:28:48 AM Ignore OTISFL Report Abuse Good or not I have no idea, but all I know is diesel is far more expensive now and use to be the cheapest.
hornet17 Champion Author Vancouver Posts:1,323 Points:440,865 Joined:Aug 2011	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:22:15 AM Ignore hornet17 Report Abuse I agree, about time.
Norm10 Champion Author British Columbia Posts:3,342 Points:162,925 Joined:Dec 2010	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:16:09 AM Ignore Norm10 Report Abuse Its about time!
fracknsave Champion Author Grand Rapids Posts:1,666 Points:58,000 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:10:05 AM Ignore fracknsave Report Abuse The marketplace is becoming more dynamic these days. Diesel use on the rise, the adaptation of nat gas. If gasoline doesn't adapt, it will be replaced.
ned23 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,116 Points:291,290 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:03:12 AM Ignore ned23 Report Abuse @StArrow: Most research shows that the majority of people who buy high mileage cars don't necessarily expect them to break even. They're buying them so that they can say they're using less gas. Much in the same way people pay more sports cars so that they can say they can go 140 mph, even though they won't ever go that fast.
ned23 Champion Author Columbus Posts:3,116 Points:291,290 Joined:Dec 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 9:00:51 AM Ignore ned23 Report Abuse @coughlin: Of the fuel or the exhaust? Biodiesel has a better smelling exhaust.
StArrow68 Champion Author Oakland Posts:3,256 Points:1,360,470 Joined:Apr 2003	Message Posted: May 1, 2012 8:59:17 AM Ignore StArrow68 Report Abuse If the mpg increase is 30% and the cost of fuel is 7 - 10% higher the net savings is about 20% on your fuel bill. The pay back isn't going to be that great if the initial cost stays several thousands above the cost of a gas alternative. I loved the 6.2L Suburban I had back in the 80's and saw a decent payback over the life of the vehicle 150k for me and running strong when traded. Hope they find the market they are looking for and the supply of the fuel stays constant. Ours went away when many local stations were deleting diesel pumps in the early 90's.