99dakota

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Providence
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 5:08:51 AM
GM bond holders took a beating in the bailout.
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SavingInNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 4:44:34 AM
No just cut the price of your vehicles.
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RonTheRunner77

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 2:56:36 AM
woo hoo new sings! I wasn't going to buy a GM car I'm reconsidering on this news though!
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dh0770

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Colorado
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Message Posted: Feb 6, 2012 1:06:03 AM
Oh ya? And how much bailout money will be needed?
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ExplorerWA

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:08:10 PM
These upgrades will be added to the price of the car. I could car less about the showroom but the training sounds good.
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NHLiveFree

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New Hampshire
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:58:17 PM
Skip the salon deal and add some saloons GM.
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my2002m

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Tulsa
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:27:31 PM
I'm not shopping for a showroom.
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schatzila

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:19:16 PM
whoop-de-doo
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amerk73

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:55:37 PM
good for GM
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bullman68

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St. Louis
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:16:34 PM
Sounds like what Harley Davidson did with most of their dealers.
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2amy

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Fresno
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:07:22 PM
A good way to lure customers inn. A great way to get you to want to buy a new car , of course with new payments.
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alterman156

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 8:05:48 PM
There are many dealerships that date back many years and they haven't upgraded their showrooms.
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jcotaxi

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South Bend
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:48:22 PM
GM must be wanting to cut down on their marketing budget.
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Wanda127

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Florida
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 7:42:06 PM
The upgrades cost will be passed on the customers.
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Bonnie24TX

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El Paso
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 6:51:43 PM
Don't be fooled, upgrades usually come with higher priced cars, or vice versa, but I hope not. Wish we could all be driving more American made cars.
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Van_Halen

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 4:44:58 PM
. Why waste the money when they will be out of business in less then 5 years!
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kx250

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 2:55:59 PM
probably wasn't voluntary, and how do you think the dealers get their money back, from their customers - get that great GM fee eel ing....
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BuckyTJones

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Salt Lake City
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 2:05:38 PM
I think GM would be better served if they focused on building a better more affordable product than a fancy labeled elixir promising to cure all.
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jim27106

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 1:15:59 PM
Truth, I think GM has paid back your money (Fox, 4/2010).
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2granny

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 11:53:43 AM
Sounds like a waste of money.
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BudsterMO

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Kansas City
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:59:27 AM
This sounds like the OLD GM, not realistic at all.
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fullcirclethink

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Washington
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:56:58 AM
Add a few brand name stores and a food court and you might get me in there!
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Sneakers55

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:55:17 AM
On Feb 5, 2012 10:11:19 AM, OHMS wrote:
>GM isn't the only carmaker asking dealers to upgrade their >facilities. Ford Motor Co. said last week that 75 of its >Lincoln dealers have already done major renovations of >their facilities
Around here, the remaining Mopar dealers upgraded their facilities.
As Ford points out in their annual reports, the dealer is the customer's interface to the brand. Therefore, it should be nicely appointed. One year, Ford set goals of 1500 vehicles annually for a Ford dealer in urban areas, figuring that was enough that the dealer could support a nice facility. Lincoln dealers, on the other hand, only had to do 600 as they sell a pricier vehicle.
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Norm10

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British Columbia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:41:59 AM
Just tell them they won't have to flog those money loosing Volts and I'm sure they would all be willing to make the upgrades.
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TruthMatters

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:24:39 AM
Upgrade some of their vehicles first, then pay back my tax money!
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NedW

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:22:38 AM
Maybe some of them could make landing strips and host fly-ins.
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OHMS

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 10:11:19 AM
GM isn't the only carmaker asking dealers to upgrade their facilities. Ford Motor Co. said last week that 75 of its Lincoln dealers have already done major renovations of their facilities, and more have agreed to future upgrades.
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DutchTreatMI

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:45:22 AM
Sounds to me like some of the upgrades are a waste of money and unnecessary.
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rx7racerca

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Calgary
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:30:43 AM
mikesr11: don't you mean statues of Bush and Cheney in the showrooms? Obama didn't approve the auto company bailouts - Bush did. It was just completed after Obama came in. Just like it was Bush and a still Republican House that approved the 700 billion for the banks - a figure larger by a factor of 10, and of far less merit. The banking and investment industry haven't changed how they operate one bit since (for that you can blame both Obama and the GOP - Obama for failing to act more decisively, and the GOP for resisting changes to bank and market governance like their lives depended on it - which politically speaking, they do, since for both parties, the biggest donors call the shots - they expect laws to be written their way for their billions in donations).
At least GM is employing Americans, making money, and, much as I don't like to say it (because I haven't liked GM for a long, long time because of mostly indifferent products, and 40 years of focus on profits instead of product), they are producing much better cars. But if you don't like the bailouts, put the blame where it rightly belongs. Or will you vote back the party that gave you the recession and bailouts in 2012, because you can't remember order of events?
[Edited by: rx7racerca at 2/5/2012 10:32:27 AM EST]
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Don20

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Oklahoma City
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:25:37 AM
-- LAS VEGAS -- General Motors Co. said Saturday that most of its 4,400 U.S. dealers have agreed to upgrade their showrooms over the next four years. The upgrades include new signs, more modern interiors and lounges with free Wi-Fi. In some cases, dealers might also open cafes or salons.
Are you looking for a new vehicle, or a hair cut and lunch.???????
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fieldt

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Lansing
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:20:39 AM
Interesting concept.
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carpenter4u

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:18:58 AM
Of course their arms are being twisted by Government Motors. They are still using our money
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fatboy97

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:18:56 AM
That still does not produce better autos.
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Tonester1

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:16:13 AM
they should improve their attitudes and service.
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MidNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:15:52 AM
Here we go with all the "Obammabad" (copywrite MidNJ 2010) comments. Unfortunately I have not seen one of those who continually badmouth our President offer another suggestion. Who likes Romney? If so, say so. Who likes Newt? If you do, say so. Like Paul or Rick, say so!
Get off of the "Obammabad" comments.
Also, we have been hearing them for years and all this BS about "Government Motors". Personally I am glad that we still have an auto manufacturing base that exists in the USA. So are those employed by General Motors.
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buzzieNY

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:15:41 AM
Put a Tim Hortons and a Dunkin Donuts in while you're at it.
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REVLAW

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San Antonio
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:15:01 AM
Improvement of the "atmosphere" will not improve the product. GM is a failed company that "robbed" taxpayers and investors to survive. They deserve no patronage.
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mikesr11

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:13:53 AM
WHAT IS THE UPGRADE? STATUES OF OBAMA AND BIDEN IN THE SHOWROOMS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tnerbeel

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Houston
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:12:20 AM
For myself, it doesn't matter how much they spiffy up those showrooms, they'll never find me in any of them. Meet me down the street at the Ford dealership.
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Ltdc

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:10:43 AM
Unless you're at the dealership for everything I wouldn't lose much sleep over the dealership. It's a nice perk but not a deal breaker.
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ljmh

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Akron
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:10:28 AM
Only good from this is the jobs it will create.
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calypso93

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Scranton
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:10:11 AM
Put a McDonalds and a Dunkin Donuts in while you're at it.
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dlemma

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:08:58 AM
No matter WHAT they do to the building we will NOT buy electric cars!
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CJ300

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New York
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:08:30 AM
If it helps sell cars
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dlemma

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:08:11 AM
hey - pay us back our money - give those who totally lost when Barry took over the company - before you do anything to the BUILDINGS. We don't care about the dealership other than being clean and neat.
We want the best buy for our money and that has NOTHING to do with the dealership!
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BillHeatherL

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Alberta
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:07:59 AM
will it affect pump prices
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Wolfwings

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Delaware
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:06:53 AM
Sounds like 0-BUMMER is hiring on next year..
Hope And Change?
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srqmale67

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Sarasota
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:06:29 AM
maybe so
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Heltonw

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Montana
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:06:02 AM
Help the dealers that work long and hard to promote GM products.
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srqmale67

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Sarasota
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Message Posted: Feb 5, 2012 9:05:41 AM
hope so
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