sydb7

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jun 23, 2012 1:09:53 PM
ok
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honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jun 22, 2012 5:02:08 AM
that's the smarter way to transport long distance. Get some of the OTRs off the roads (and keep highways from deteriorating too badly) and move freight onto rails.
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sparky808

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Honolulu
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 12:20:40 PM
Thank you for posting.
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tomok

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Portland
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 5:00:00 AM
Pipelines are the most efficient way for transporting crude oil and fuel. With no pipelines near the source of the oil, railroad tankers are the next best thing. No wonder railroad oil capacity is up more than 50 percent! Time for the railroad companies to make their profit while they can. Whatever the size or shape of the vehicle, Produce and ‘Drive’ vehicles with high MPG, are very safe and reliable, have a ‘reasonable’ cost and a good ‘value’ for the money. Consider using other forms of less expensive transportation to lower your cost, if possible. The price of fuel at the pump is too high! 12/22/2012!
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dlemma

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Wyoming
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Message Posted: Jun 21, 2012 3:48:00 AM
have to get it out one way or another.
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Number43

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Lexington
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:39:59 PM
Good for us
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tidalwave3

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:31:14 PM
Trains never de-rail :(
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:23:08 PM
Great - make it, and it will be moved
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bvrbill

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Eugene
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:20:03 PM
Good for jobs in the rail industry.
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nwsynthetics

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Oregon
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:10:42 PM
OK
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jem069

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:10:39 PM
Ok
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crreed1

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West Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:10:12 PM
ok
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1fulltank

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Buffalo
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:07:15 PM
Old article.
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chuckhermann

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New York
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:07:06 PM
I never knew that ND was producing that much oil.
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WVUtailgater

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:07:04 PM
keep it coming
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PrinceLH

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:06:49 PM
So why is there an issue with price?
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BobD2009

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Long Island
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:06:19 PM
That's good news.
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joel27nc

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Raleigh
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:05:49 PM
WOW, really
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rahcat

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Grand Rapids
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:05:20 PM
A derailment would cause a bomb train.
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regout

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Quebec
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:05:08 PM
Good for the railways.
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souly

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Montreal
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:04:29 PM
ok
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Matt G

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Boston
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:03:57 PM
Ok
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jrschl

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:02:37 PM
At least someone is doing something and making progress.
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1cheapgasin

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Indianapolis
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:02:03 PM
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96sc1

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El Paso
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 11:01:00 PM
North Dakota is an excellent role model.
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abcdMA

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Worcester
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:59:16 PM
good deal
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Jeff1944

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South Dakota
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:58:24 PM
It appears that planners are very good for North Dakota.
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csblesson

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:55:08 PM
That is good
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letterchunker

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:52:34 PM
Agree with vollee
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Z51Corvette

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:51:00 PM
69Bonne... are you for real... that is NOT the answer... Rail is dangerous compared to the pipeline... and it is more expensive... definitely not the answer.
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indrix

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:50:47 PM
ok
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jessek

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Detroit
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:49:11 PM
They have to have a means of moving the product.
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vollee

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Cincinnati
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:47:11 PM
Rail is NOT the most efficient way to move bulk liquids. Pipelines are much less costly to operate and much SAFER. Just wait until a train load of crude derails on some of the old, outdated track that still exists.
Keystone Pipeline and links to it from the Bakken production fields are the answer. Of course Obozo doesn't even know the question! He'll be toast come Nov 6.
In the meantime, my Berkshire Hathaway stock is doing fine thanks in part to all the crude the BN is moving. Of course, y'all are paying for the higher freight in higher prices at the pump. Just remember that come election day.
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69Bonne

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Gary
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:47:08 PM
Keep it up North Dakota! That means more tanker cars will have to be built, which means more jobs for others.
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carranco

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Georgia
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:45:48 PM
But don't those trains run on diesel? With global warming raining down on us, that is just not going to be sustainable. Are there any green energy powered trains in the works?
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DrLyon

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:44:58 PM
Go RR, go...
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baconnie

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:43:56 PM
ok
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kusanagisama

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:43:55 PM
Ok
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carpenter4u

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:42:42 PM
Where there is a will, there's a way
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suzmar

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Texas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:42:04 PM
Pipelines seem a lot safer than moving oil by rail. You hear of a lot more train de-railments than you do pipeline spills.
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Dodge_Me

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:41:24 PM
Good for them, when they win so does everyone else
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WIPACKERFAN

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Chicago
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:37:50 PM
Good news.
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sammy518

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Austin
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:37:11 PM
too bad items are not being shipped by rail, this would decrease the need for oil/gasoline to move by bigrigs the items on our overtaxed highways.
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jrsva

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:35:55 PM
“BNSF hauls about 75 percent of the crude that leaves North Dakota by rail . . . .”
Making Warren Buffet and Berkshire-Hathaway shareholders richer than ever. I’m happy to own just a few shares of UP, which gets some of the freight.
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CapNC

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:35:50 PM
good for ND
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SpankyMI

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:35:31 PM
Who owns the trains?
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kgbellman

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Ann Arbor
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:35:08 PM
Great - make it, and it will be moved
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Bleeder

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:33:59 PM
This is great news for ND.
[Edited by: Bleeder at 6/20/2012 11:34:43 PM EST]
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DEG

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Las Vegas
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:33:32 PM
Railroads seem more prone to environmental disaster than a pipeline does.
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Nancy&Len

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Jun 20, 2012 10:32:05 PM
ok
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