honda0105

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Tallahassee
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Message Posted: Oct 16, 2012 4:53:32 AM
it'll be the same as with gasoline and diesel. Eventually things will run low.
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jrs4125

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Indiana
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Message Posted: Oct 11, 2012 6:32:47 AM
This will work for a while.
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MAC48

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Dallas
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 6:05:53 PM
pittamon - First, no enterprise in their right mind would even think of significantly expanding existing plants or building a new chemical plant in non right-to-work states in this day and age. Second, the cost to operate a chemical plant increases as you look at plant sites further North from the Gulf Coast due to the greater number of cold days and the increased number of really cold days. Third, water borne transportation for raw materials and for finished product used to be and may still be the cheapest form of liquid (such as diesel, gasoline, crude oil, etcetara) or gaseous material product transportation followed by pipelines.
wshutton - The states made plenty of tax revenue from the "old, abandoned, and unused wells in the same oil formations" and the states themselves should be tasked with sealing these old wells. It is certainly not a responsibility of the companies currently operating in the gas and oil shale fields to plug these old, abandoned, and unused wells unless the wells belonged to these entities in the first place.
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wshutton

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Los Angeles
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:03:30 PM
If we can get the frackers to seal old, abandoned, and unused wells in the same oil formations, fracking should work viably. Just as many straws draw from the same well, fracking pressure forces oil products out all straws, ready or not. Fracking a well field with abandoned wells blows the milkshake right out those wells.
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A2J

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 9:34:45 AM
gas to what ?
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eschroth442

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 7:19:29 AM
lower cost energy fuels company growth and economic development. Drill for the gas and use it in our industries!!!
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bar1035

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Charlotte
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 6:39:51 AM
Well said wegman. You should be required reading
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pitamon

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Philadelphia
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 6:21:31 AM
How about building those chemical plants closer to the NG?
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teamsimons

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South Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:56:27 AM
There is no doubt that natural gas is turning some business models on their heads. Let's hope that prices come down, jobs become more plentiful and the free market has an opportunity to thrive. Maybe it will one day replace gasoline on a mainstream level.
If we're going to keep talking about natural gas, perhaps it's time for GasBuddy and SouthCarolinaGasPrices.com to have a "natural gas" tab at the top of their sections.
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dogsdog

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Sacramento
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:56:12 AM
well said wegman
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ReddevilNO

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New Orleans
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:43:07 AM
Ok.
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Cableman66

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North Carolina
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:41:28 AM
Looks like all the new jobs are in the central part of the country border to border. Just follow the pipelines.
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335d1

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:37:09 AM
I'll wait and see about that.
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wegman

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:29:27 AM
The Law of Unintended Consequences CAN cut both ways. Normally it triggers negative repercussions, but it CAN spin positive benefits.
This might be one of the rare positive cases.
Much of the chemical industry (ESPECIALLY plastics) works with hydrocarbons. Very often, we start with petroleum and break the chemicals down into smaller chains (and then possibly recombine them into something other than the starting material). But you can start with simpler chemicals (and normally the natural gas products are smaller molecules than the petroleum stuff) and stitch them together.
So we have a WIN-WIN-WIN for every rational American.
Unfortunately, the Luddite Green Left isn't rational. Their crusade to halt fracking would trigger the normal result of the Law of Unintended Consequences - it would increase the number of things that cost MORE.
SO, we need to defeat the Luddite Green Left's war on fracking. How???
On Election Day - FIRE LIBERALS!!! (and do NOT hire new ones). Unemploying Obama should be HIGH on the list.
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WonderfulMI

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:26:35 AM
This is self-evident.
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cheapertvs

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Richmond
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:25:26 AM
Great! We need all the petroleum related jobs here!
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Jeffro61

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Cleveland
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:23:42 AM
Frack on.
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Zuman

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:21:53 AM
Good
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SparkieMi

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:20:10 AM
Sounds good....
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firasatali

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Toronto
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:19:29 AM
ok
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DavidsChallenge

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:19:25 AM
Common since.
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skippypa

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Hawaii
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:18:01 AM
Interesting
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dandvicb

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Bridgeport
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:17:03 AM
cewrtainly won't extend to the middle class!!
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bowler360

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:17:00 AM
It's the way to go, Cheaper for them means cheaper for end user,.......usually.
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yonasb

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Houston
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:16:45 AM
Ok
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76chevy

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Toledo
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:16:30 AM
Now we just need to elect a good president instead of continuing the failed policies of the present.
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FieroGT

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Twin Cities
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:15:39 AM
I agree.
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bassakwards007

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Orange County
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:15:10 AM
Looks to be promising
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NJColt

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:14:44 AM
Just cut the gas cost.
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subnuke

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Atlanta
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:13:24 AM
This should help the new Romney administration get over the failed obuma economic policies.
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Ferdman17

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Albany
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:13:15 AM
Nice to see this!
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Pointtx

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Austin
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:12:58 AM
*could* prompt.
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Z06KY

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Louisville
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:12:41 AM
Very good!
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1178richmond

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:11:28 AM
ok
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RADIOCANADA499

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Ontario
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:09:54 AM
Cool!!!
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bikerWI

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Milwaukee
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:09:33 AM
Great new.
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dar 1

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Michigan
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:07:51 AM
Good for all...............
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74celica

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Columbus
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:07:49 AM
please keep the government out of it
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Straitliner

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Illinois
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:06:22 AM
I didnt know we were recovering from the recession.
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4064BORI

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Virginia Beach
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:05:50 AM
Ok
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ponyNJ

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:05:38 AM
It will be an aid in our recovery if the government allows production to go forward. If they stop activity in favor of "Green Energy" then no help.
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stratlinetime

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Kalamazoo
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:04:56 AM
Ok
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Bonanza

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Boston
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:03:42 AM
Obama won't like this
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vamike

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:03:03 AM
Hope so.
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04LTC

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Massachusetts
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:02:09 AM
sounds good
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wrunner

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Virginia
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 5:01:30 AM
Fasinating!
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jethro5000

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Kentucky
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 4:56:49 AM
Potential...
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chuckhermann

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New York
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 4:54:47 AM
That would be great news for the US economy.
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mystic92

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New Jersey
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 4:51:25 AM
ok lets see if this works in other areas
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bababooey2

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Hartford
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Message Posted: Oct 10, 2012 4:51:05 AM
good
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