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Toyota gets most Florida, N.Y unintended-acceleration claims dismissed

Automotive News -- Toyota Motor Corp. won dismissal of most claims by Florida and New York car owners who contended the company drove down the value of their vehicles by failing to disclose or fix defects related to unintended acceleration.

Florida plaintiffs can't sue Toyota for economic loss if they didn't experience an actual "sudden unintended acceleration" event, said U.S. District Judge James Selna in Santa Ana, Calif., making final a tentative ruling from April.

New York plaintiffs are cut out if they didn't experience such an event or didn't have a measurable loss when trying to sell or trade in their vehicles, Selna said.

Friday's ruling will affect "most economic loss claims" in those states, said Carl Tobias, law professor at the University of Richmond in Virginia.

"It might also make....

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Submitted May 06, 2012 By: StanleyCup

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E-Squirrel Champion Author Orange County Posts:3,012 Points:819,060 Joined:Feb 2005	Message Posted: May 11, 2012 6:12:18 PM Ignore E-Squirrel Report Abuse honda0105 asks: "... old foggies that don't know how to drive... hmmm... maybe there's some truth that after all?" I suspect that the real truth is that after hearing about the runaway Lexus in San Diego, many people thought that they could use the Toyota recalls as a way to extort money from the company via tort claims. There was also some political and union glee to see Toyota losing sales after it had bested GM in world wide sales earlier. Like some other manufacturers, Toyota closed its only UAW plant in favor of plants in right-to-work states. [Edited by: E-Squirrel at 5/11/2012 7:12:53 PM EST]
honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,623 Points:1,609,520 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 9, 2012 11:31:43 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse sounds to me they're almost saying that it's the old foggies that don't know how to drive... hmmm... maybe there's some truth that after all?
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spiderjay Champion Author Little Rock Posts:4,773 Points:1,282,235 Joined:Oct 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:32:07 AM Ignore spiderjay Report Abuse but why only there
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bsg75 Veteran Author Chicago Posts:428 Points:134,115 Joined:May 2010	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:29:55 AM Ignore bsg75 Report Abuse Obvious design flaw to make accelerator and brake both pedals.
Tundralimited2009 Champion Author Dallas Posts:38,812 Points:1,447,425 Joined:Feb 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:29:53 AM Ignore Tundralimited2009 Report Abuse Interesting
Retowered Champion Author Colorado Posts:8,577 Points:2,685,415 Joined:May 2004	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:28:34 AM Ignore Retowered Report Abuse No Toyota for me.
BobD2009 Champion Author Long Island Posts:6,989 Points:1,239,785 Joined:Apr 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:12:17 AM Ignore BobD2009 Report Abuse I won't buy a Toyota after all those defects.
scrounger Champion Author Vancouver Posts:9,778 Points:3,043,430 Joined:Mar 2003	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:11:52 AM Ignore scrounger Report Abuse Now can I make a claim against gm for my HHR that accelerated suddenly and unexplainably????
ERO Champion Author Milwaukee Posts:21,614 Points:3,680,285 Joined:Feb 2003	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 1:07:49 AM Ignore ERO Report Abuse This just tells me to stay far away from Toyota - buh bye All Toyota's lost value - so if you bought one - you lost! [Edited by: ERO at 5/7/2012 2:08:55 AM EST]
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Saturn93 Champion Author Salt Lake City Posts:7,292 Points:1,640,885 Joined:Oct 2006	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:59:46 AM Ignore Saturn93 Report Abuse How much did it cost Toyota in legal fees?
Fitwit Champion Author Stockton Posts:6,394 Points:1,354,895 Joined:May 2009	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:57:53 AM Ignore Fitwit Report Abuse My bathwater turned cold.
cutter1330 Champion Author Oklahoma Posts:8,030 Points:1,693,140 Joined:Jul 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:56:33 AM Ignore cutter1330 Report Abuse No unintended speed up = no fast cash in the wallet, and that's as it should be
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speedys Champion Author Utah Posts:7,015 Points:2,558,845 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:56:01 AM Ignore speedys Report Abuse Only the lawyers will come out good on this deal.
J Eric Champion Author Los Angeles Posts:10,270 Points:2,070,955 Joined:Feb 2004	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:55:35 AM Ignore J Eric Report Abuse Good for them. Why should consumers reap a fortune on the misfortunes of just a few?
liao Champion Author Montreal Posts:3,442 Points:1,427,260 Joined:Sep 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:54:59 AM Ignore liao Report Abuse Copy cat claims.
yakstar Champion Author Montreal Posts:2,415 Points:479,070 Joined:Jan 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:54:12 AM Ignore yakstar Report Abuse nice.
vegan_power Sophomore Author Hartford Posts:126 Points:51,030 Joined:Feb 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:53:41 AM Ignore vegan_power Report Abuse big surprise
USAv8tor Veteran Author Long Island Posts:348 Points:138,665 Joined:Mar 2012	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:52:09 AM Ignore USAv8tor Report Abuse They must have hired a really skilled and expensive legal team.
RENEGADEGAS Champion Author Missouri Posts:14,912 Points:1,591,225 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:46:35 AM Ignore RENEGADEGAS Report Abuse TIGERPAW46.... Great post and well said!
roadrunnerMO Champion Author Kansas Posts:8,406 Points:1,699,465 Joined:Jul 2008	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:43:04 AM Ignore roadrunnerMO Report Abuse Agree with LuthierKS. Bad publicity by the media which should be punished so that it hurts the media. Lisbility for slander hould be handled correctly.
adgam Champion Author Orange County Posts:2,264 Points:501,020 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:39:41 AM Ignore adgam Report Abuse kk
LuthierKS Champion Author Wichita Posts:3,741 Points:728,955 Joined:Apr 2011	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:20:36 AM Ignore LuthierKS Report Abuse Excellent decision. All the evidence points to the drivers, not the motor car, in these "unintended acceleration" incidenses. These car owners should be sueing the media for sensationalizing these events, without a shred of evidence, not Toyota.
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grouch311 Champion Author Peoria Posts:6,378 Points:1,572,880 Joined:Jun 2007	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:07:16 AM Ignore grouch311 Report Abuse sure sounds like some judges got paid off
TBONE3 Champion Author Pennsylvania Posts:8,746 Points:1,976,650 Joined:Mar 2005	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:05:28 AM Ignore TBONE3 Report Abuse Something a little odd in the decision.
TIGERPAW46 Champion Author Florida Posts:7,126 Points:1,355,680 Joined:Mar 2004	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:05:25 AM Ignore TIGERPAW46 Report Abuse Do we really think all Toyota vehicle trade ins or resales were majorly decreased due to a debateable brake issue in another model? Maybe trade-ins or resales were low due to economy and big rebates off new vehicles that made buying new better than 1--3 yr old vehicles. Apparently the courts didn't think they proved their case against Toyota, at least on that issue.
probedude2 Champion Author Akron Posts:12,553 Points:2,380,205 Joined:Jun 2003	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:02:37 AM Ignore probedude2 Report Abuse Whaddaya know, people can't sue Toyota if they didn't experience an actual "sudden unintended acceleration" event!
10k Champion Author North Carolina Posts:21,249 Points:2,254,020 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: May 7, 2012 12:02:03 AM Ignore 10k Report Abuse dang-so much for my "get rich quick scheme"-now i gotta go out and find a real job..
Bussman Champion Author Dallas Posts:5,513 Points:1,358,985 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:58:09 PM Ignore Bussman Report Abuse Good. Frivolous lawsuit.
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danreino Champion Author Twin Cities Posts:8,348 Points:1,539,755 Joined:Mar 2008	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:55:25 PM Ignore danreino Report Abuse What were the ages of the claiments ? Hate to say it but many of these were likely elderly drivers who confused one pedal for the other, and hopefully didn't take out any innocent bystanders in the process.
Mr Tex All-Star Author Dallas Posts:872 Points:2,492,810 Joined:Jan 2004	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:54:48 PM Ignore Mr Tex Report Abuse Wait. "Most" of the claims were from people had never experienced any problem???????
PetroScopper Champion Author Houston Posts:6,622 Points:1,549,975 Joined:Aug 2008	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:54:39 PM Ignore PetroScopper Report Abuse I think unless you drive a Toyota and have experienced any of the problems they were have been accused of, it is hard to make an intelligent analysis of the situation. I am not, nor have I ever been a Toyota owner- probably will never be, just not a big fan.
bobdec Champion Author Miami Posts:8,959 Points:1,768,845 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:53:40 PM Ignore bobdec Report Abuse Was it our corrupt system that allowed this?
esquared Champion Author Oklahoma City Posts:8,062 Points:1,969,135 Joined:Jan 2006	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:52:59 PM Ignore esquared Report Abuse Still can't help but think driver error was involved.
MetroSexual Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:3,004 Points:316,380 Joined:Aug 2005	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:49:47 PM Ignore MetroSexual Report Abuse Selling a car that has experienced unintended acceleration is tantamount to playing Russian roulette.
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jkpsr Champion Author New Jersey Posts:4,079 Points:1,101,905 Joined:Jun 2005	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:46:55 PM Ignore jkpsr Report Abuse This was mostly a ruse. Toyota fixed it by equipping their gas with a device that shuts down the gas if the brake is applied, a fairly easy fix.
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TekWare Champion Author Toronto Posts:3,161 Points:672,300 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: May 6, 2012 11:41:21 PM Ignore TekWare Report Abuse Sounds reasonable.