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US judge strikes down EPA water rules for mines

NBC News -- CHARLESTON, W.Va. — The Environmental Protection Agency overstepped its powers by setting up water-quality criteria for coal mining operations in Appalachia, a federal judge ruled Tuesday.

U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton in Washington ruled that the EPA infringed on the authority given to state regulators by federal clean- water and surface-mining laws. A coal mining industry coalition sued the EPA and Administrator Lisa Jackson, and the lawsuit was joined by West Virginia and Kentucky.

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Submitted Aug 02, 2012 By: drpepperTX

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honda0105 Champion Author Tallahassee Posts:18,632 Points:1,610,495 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 5, 2012 7:27:55 AM Ignore honda0105 Report Abuse for those who hate the EPA, I hope you like drinking sewage water and don't mind having lead back in your food. At a time when big corporations are looking for nothing but their bottom line (and a BIG one at that), the regular Jo(e) is no longer valuable and clean drinking water and healthy food are rapidly becoming again a thing of the past. Look to what East Germany looked in the early 1980s or many areas of China today. That's what we're gong for in this country again. All the gains are eroding and the ones to pay the price most are our children and grandchildren.
sparky808 Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,003 Points:598,710 Joined:Sep 2011	Message Posted: Aug 3, 2012 12:34:47 PM Ignore sparky808 Report Abuse Thank you for posting.
RogerB Champion Author Indianapolis Posts:18,066 Points:2,624,935 Joined:Dec 2005	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:23:43 PM Ignore RogerB Report Abuse epa always overstepping "control FREAKS"
us4usa Champion Author Missouri Posts:5,992 Points:1,113,385 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:20:15 PM Ignore us4usa Report Abuse ""The Environmental Protection Agency overstepped its powers"" Say it aint so Joe...
crreed1 Champion Author West Virginia Posts:1,990 Points:2,527,310 Joined:May 2005	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:20:13 PM Ignore crreed1 Report Abuse old news
granitestater Champion Author New Hampshire Posts:8,829 Points:1,431,725 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:16:01 PM Ignore granitestater Report Abuse EPA--Big Brother in Action...
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mfeldstein Champion Author Ottawa Posts:8,176 Points:1,931,455 Joined:Feb 2007	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:12:18 PM Ignore mfeldstein Report Abuse Another under-the-table win for the coal mining lobby.
arb0526 Champion Author Greensboro Posts:1,981 Points:411,595 Joined:Mar 2011	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:10:32 PM Ignore arb0526 Report Abuse A new sign was put over the entrance to Town: Welcome to Camp Dirty Water
rawdog1313 Champion Author Lexington Posts:3,304 Points:1,643,780 Joined:May 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:09:59 PM Ignore rawdog1313 Report Abuse Wonder who is filling his pockets?
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goldentoe Champion Author Oregon Posts:5,925 Points:1,362,310 Joined:Mar 2007	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 11:01:55 PM Ignore goldentoe Report Abuse Start looking for the stories about three-legged babies!
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DustyHorse Champion Author Virginia Posts:6,090 Points:1,392,330 Joined:Oct 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:54:32 PM Ignore DustyHorse Report Abuse The EPA needs to be struck down.
bonzoonfmb Champion Author Florida Posts:1,787 Points:645,560 Joined:Feb 2010	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:54:02 PM Ignore bonzoonfmb Report Abuse The EPA should be revamped or eliminated.
DEG Champion Author Las Vegas Posts:17,625 Points:3,495,680 Joined:Jul 2003	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:51:18 PM Ignore DEG Report Abuse The EPA should be ended and its functions should be handled at the state and local levels.
gsayeg1 All-Star Author Milwaukee Posts:791 Points:140,710 Joined:Jun 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:47:34 PM Ignore gsayeg1 Report Abuse EPA - helping oil company's all over the US
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30mpg80 Champion Author Lexington Posts:10,035 Points:1,487,855 Joined:Nov 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:46:04 PM Ignore 30mpg80 Report Abuse Mine coal at any cost to health, water quality.
truckguy115 Champion Author Orange County Posts:1,632 Points:221,225 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:45:11 PM Ignore truckguy115 Report Abuse good it's time to bitch slap the EPA around.
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oldiesman Champion Author New York Posts:6,432 Points:2,194,935 Joined:May 2006	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:43:08 PM Ignore oldiesman Report Abuse How about that poor farmer in Oregon who got fined and maybe arressted for catching rain water for his farm, seems he violated some crazy law.
vibdata Champion Author Massachusetts Posts:4,090 Points:849,300 Joined:Nov 2005	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:42:28 PM Ignore vibdata Report Abuse What country is Appalachia in?
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btsom Sophomore Author Oklahoma City Posts:222 Points:14,100 Joined:May 2011	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:38:29 PM Ignore btsom Report Abuse OGW says: "There is never a time when a judge should be able to over rule the EPA especially in favor of the always polluting coal industry." Be glad that I don't run things. I'd cut off all of your electricity, gasoline and natural gas and see what you think of the pre-industrial revolution life style. More people live longer, healthier lives now in spite of the side effects of coal, oil, and gas than anyone ever lived without them. The enviros just won't face that fact. Those people never think about how interconnected everything is with fuel. Without a car you pull a wagon to the store. You would make that trip EVERY DAY because you wouldn't have electricity for your refrigerator to store a few days worth of food. How would things be kept fresh in the store? How would stuff even get delivered to the store? Cars and trucks use gas and diesel...right you are. Ever try to fill your tank at a gas station with no electricity to run the pumps? [Edited by: btsom at 8/2/2012 11:40:00 PM EST]
knot2swift Champion Author Calgary Posts:4,388 Points:697,955 Joined:Nov 2009	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:38:26 PM Ignore knot2swift Report Abuse Coal has always been a dirty business. Worse than oil or natural gas.
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jimedB Veteran Author Riverside Posts:405 Points:79,515 Joined:Jun 2012	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:35:09 PM Ignore jimedB Report Abuse Will it be overturned on appeal?
firefly09 Champion Author San Diego Posts:2,497 Points:716,700 Joined:Mar 2009	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:31:20 PM Ignore firefly09 Report Abuse It is a no win deal.
kelly1016 Champion Author Victoria Posts:1,953 Points:352,940 Joined:Oct 2011	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:31:08 PM Ignore kelly1016 Report Abuse The EPA is there to protect you.
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paulydel Champion Author Delaware Posts:8,789 Points:847,900 Joined:Jan 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:27:11 PM Ignore paulydel Report Abuse Thats why we have judges. I'm glad he ruled against the EPA because they have overstepped their bounds.
mcmonsta Champion Author Honolulu Posts:3,232 Points:819,520 Joined:Sep 2009	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:27:00 PM Ignore mcmonsta Report Abuse isn't pollution still pollution no matter what the mining industry tries to smoke over?
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OGW Champion Author London Posts:5,329 Points:1,532,975 Joined:Sep 2005	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:21:26 PM Ignore OGW Report Abuse There is never a time when a judge should be able to over rule the EPA especially in favor of the always polluting coal industry.
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clermont40miles Champion Author Cincinnati Posts:10,576 Points:1,772,940 Joined:Apr 2008	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:20:40 PM Ignore clermont40miles Report Abuse Stop the rogue greenies - EPA run by Lisa Jackson. Eliminate both.
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bigoilscamsus Champion Author Lansing Posts:1,058 Points:48,265 Joined:Nov 2011	Message Posted: Aug 2, 2012 10:08:33 PM Ignore bigoilscamsus Report Abuse Two weeks ago we bought gas for $2.79.9 in South Carolina and for $2.99.9 in Toledo Ohio!! We returned to Michigan on July 20th and gas was $3.35.9!! Sense that time we have had price increases to $3.65.9 on July 25th, $3.79.9 0n July 30th and know $3.99.9 on August 2nd!! Big Oil is totally out of control!! They can and do raise prices at the pump for the sole purpose of adding to their already outrageous quarterly profit totals!! We need price and profit controls on all petroleum products!! Our government has given the oil industry huge tax breaks and incentives to produce reasonably priced fuel for our economic growth!! It was always a balancing act, but know Big Oil has shown no restraint , and their profits are so outlandish that it is hard to even compute them Congress needs to put profit and price controls on all petroleum products and if the price for fuel doesn't come down to below $2.50 per gallon , the Federal government needs to Nationalize the entire petroleum industry!!
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